if he got marco rubio or rice assuming they would do it but -- >> if he went for meg whitman of california running for the senate and the chair -- the ceo of hewlett-packard. a serious woman as opposed to palin and the race in 2008. if he took a serious woman, he might have hosted a chance, i think. >> on obama, i mean, he ended up fighting a campaign that was pretty skillful on the ground where it mattered in the swing states. probably why he won. but you would say he didn't live up to the prams that he gave us four years ago. what does he have to do now? he can't face another election. what do you want him to do to show fulfillment of that promise? >> i think what i want him to do and what i think needs to be done are to some degree separate things but i do know that we have had a lot of programs, government-funded program that is represent both sides of the aisle. both sides want everything they want and found a way with this congress over the last several years to get much of what they want and we bought it on credit. and the time has come, because we have enormous debt and raise taxes